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OKLAHOMA CITY – Bothered that an ambulance driver failed to yield to him as he raced to provide backup on a call — and angered further when he thought the driver flipped him an obscene gesture — state Trooper Daniel Martin decided to stop the ambulance and give the driver a piece of his mind.
What Martin didn't know then, his lawyer said Monday, was that there was a patient in the back of the ambulance.
"He's not this ogre, this depriver of people's rights," the trooper's attorney, Gary James, said. "He's a good man."
Since a cell phone video of the dispute taken by the patient's son was released last month, Martin has faced criticism and has been placed on paid leave pending an investigation. The patient, Stella Davis of Boley, was eventually treated and released from the hospital, but relatives and others have questioned why the ambulance was stopped and pushed for answers.
After the trooper stopped the vehicle, a paramedic jumped from the back and demanded that Martin talk to him instead of the driver, according to a longer video, taken by the dashboard camera in Martin's cruiser, that authorities released over the weekend.
"You get back in the ambulance, I'm talking to the driver," Martin said.
"I'm in charge of this unit, sir," the paramedic tells Martin, an Iraq war veteran who returned from the Middle East about a month before the May 24 incident in Paden, 40 miles east of Oklahoma City.
Martin tells the driver he's going to give him a ticket for failure to yield.
"I ain't going to be putting up with that (expletive)," Martin said. "You understand me?"
Then the paramedic, Maurice White Jr., said: "And I won't put up with you talking to my driver like that."
The situation escalates, with White repeatedly telling Martin he has a patient that he wants to take to the hospital, and Martin telling him to get back in the ambulance. They soon begin scuffling on the side of the road as Martin attempts to arrest White, at one point grabbing him by the throat, video shows.
Martin's attorney said the trooper — whom he described as a decorated sailor and a 15-year law enforcement veteran — didn't realize there was a patient in the ambulance until well after the situation had intensified. He either didn't hear it or it didn't register, he said.
Martin was trying to make a legitimate traffic stop, James said, when White became hostile, refused to comply with the patrolman's orders and caused the situation to spiral out of control.
James said the law allows an officer to pull over an ambulance if its emergency lights and sirens aren't running, as was the case in this incident.
Thompson Gouge, spokesman for the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, which employs White as a paramedic, said the use of lights and sirens depends on the patient's medical situation. Sometimes the lights and sirens often won't be used when patients are transported to the hospital in order to keep them calm.
White's attorney, Richard O'Carroll, said the veteran paramedic was trying to protect his patient and that the trooper had no reason to stop the ambulance, let alone try and arrest White. The trooper's arms were bruised when White resisted arrest, James said.
"If the guy was bruised, it didn't make any difference," O'Carroll said. "He ought not to stop ambulance drivers for hurting his feelings."
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http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/28/oklahoma-cop-pulls-ambulance-over-puts-emt-in-chokehold-while-patient-lingers/
video from son of the women in the ambulence (about halfway through altercation)
http://feeds.newsok.tv/services/play...id=26257992001
video from the cops dashcam
I honestly can't believe this video. Start withthe cam on the cop car and then see what they edited out by watching the sons camera phone video. It's ****ing crazy..
video from son of the women in the ambulence (about halfway through altercation)
http://feeds.newsok.tv/services/play...id=26257992001
video from the cops dashcam
I honestly can't believe this video. Start withthe cam on the cop car and then see what they edited out by watching the sons camera phone video. It's ****ing crazy..
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I didn't watch the video cause I can imagine the cop being a complete douche. He must have some complex of feeling superior to people to hassle an ambulance and not realize someone was in there. If that person would have died it would have been a huge deal. But if that was my family in there that needed to get to the hospital boy I would be just as pissed.
Re: mostmested up thing ive seen in a long time
Cops have way too big of a complex these days.... well, I guess a lot of them have always had it.
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I don't know that you can always blame the cops. Look at Milwaukee, there were two guys robbing some store and the armed guard heard them say (so everyone could hear), "shoot the guard, he saw our faces", the guard shot the one dead and the other was wounded.
The news read - "City of Milwaukee decides to not press charges against the guard". Are you ****ing kidding? The man's life was threatened and the city "decides" not to press charges? The whole thing is bull ****, if they are paid to protect (cops) let them use their ****ing judgement.
The news read - "City of Milwaukee decides to not press charges against the guard". Are you ****ing kidding? The man's life was threatened and the city "decides" not to press charges? The whole thing is bull ****, if they are paid to protect (cops) let them use their ****ing judgement.
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carter wrote:I don't know that you can always blame the cops. Look at Milwaukee, there were two guys robbing some store and the armed guard heard them say (so everyone could hear), "shoot the guard, he saw our faces", the guard shot the one dead and the other was wounded.
The news read - "City of Milwaukee decides to not press charges against the guard". Are you ****ing kidding? The man's life was threatened and the city "decides" not to press charges? The whole thing is bull ****, if they are paid to protect (cops) let them use their ****ing judgement.
.. did you watch the videos? This cop is on a power trip hard core. I was reading a review by someone else, they made a good point.. this was a professional EMT who didn't let the situation get out of control -- and he got put into a choke hold. Could you imagine it some low life in an ally where noone is watching?
There is a difference between poor judgement and being a complete power freak and dangerous (the officer had talked about using deadly force ie. pulling gun).
These are two different situations and are not anecdotal. I don't appreciate the comparison.
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I hear what you are saying and a lot of cops get into the field because they are megalomaniacs. I guess i am speaking more of the guys that get accused of being brutal because of **** like the rodney king beating.
You're right though, that cop was excessive beyond belief...i guess i should have said i was speaking from what i've seen on the news and such.
You're right though, that cop was excessive beyond belief...i guess i should have said i was speaking from what i've seen on the news and such.
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ps....got a picture of you in a slide tackle on this page...----
http://www.cheeseathletics.com/majors/majorspics.htm
http://www.cheeseathletics.com/majors/majorspics.htm
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carter wrote:I hear what you are saying and a lot of cops get into the field because they are megalomaniacs. I guess i am speaking more of the guys that get accused of being brutal because of **** like the rodney king beating.
You're right though, that cop was excessive beyond belief...i guess i should have said i was speaking from what i've seen on the news and such.
yeah rodney king resisted a lawful arrest, the cops probably went overboard but I guess better safe than sorry
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cpschult wrote:carter wrote:I hear what you are saying and a lot of cops get into the field because they are megalomaniacs. I guess i am speaking more of the guys that get accused of being brutal because of **** like the rodney king beating.
You're right though, that cop was excessive beyond belief...i guess i should have said i was speaking from what i've seen on the news and such.
yeah rodney king resisted a lawful arrest, the cops probably went overboard but I guess better safe than sorry
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I like watching coked up black men get beat after attacking police. In all honesty I can't imagine beating a guy like that when he's down, but when does the safety of the police overrule the health of an individual? If they see a gun , pew pew.
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carter wrote:ps....got a picture of you in a slide tackle on this page...----
http://www.cheeseathletics.com/majors/majorspics.htm
That's not a slide tackle, I'm just laying down on the job...
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LOL I want to photoshop your legs out of the picture and having you pop up out of the grass with your arms up like that.
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tictac wrote:LOL I want to photoshop your legs out of the picture and having you pop up out of the grass with your arms up like that.
that would make for a good GIF file...
Not sure i want to put the time in to make it happen.
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